Is Pinguicula Lutea difficult to keep long-term?

[wolf89]

Hello. On multiple sources (The Savage Garden, etc), I've read that Pinguicula Lutea is difficult to keep long term. They say it tends to rot away.

Is P. Lutea difficult to keep long term? I would like to get one, but if it's too difficult, I'll think about getting a P. Caerulea instead.

[xave]

if you have seeds it's ok, but lutea just live 1 or 2 years I think, so you have to polinisate it, and it's very difficulte!!!

[wolf89]

Mar 1, 2009 18:02:47 GMT -5 @xave said:

if you have seeds it's ok, but lutea just live 1 or 2 years I think, so you have to polinisate it, and it's very difficulte!!!

Or you can do leaf cuttings too, right?


I also read that it enjoys a dryer soil than other CPs, like it will grow in a regular pine-forest instead of a wetland. Maybe that has something to do with the rot people talk about.

[daniel]

Hi,

normally they should survive much longer in culture.
They are not annual like P. pumilla.
Leaf cuttings can work if you are really lucky, but from about 10 leafes you will have at least one plantlett, it´s not worthy.
Leafcuttings you can make from mexican Pinguicula species.

Xave, pollinating is not really difficult, it works well, even self pollination works.

Best regards,

Dani

[jeff]

and yours DANIEL , no news ?

jeff

[xave]

Mar 1, 2009 19:09:11 GMT -5 daniel said:

Xave, pollinating is not really difficult, it works well, even self pollination works.

Dani

I will try again with pumilla and lutea soon, but until now, no seeds

[Brian Barnes]

Hello All,

For years, I've grown Pinguicula lutea in different conditions. However lately, I have been growing it in very wet conditions year-round with my P. planifolia. The plants look healthier than those I've kept drier. I'm going to try P. caerulea this way also, since it grows in the same identical conditions as P. lutea 'in situ'...
In the wild, the plants do prefer higher areas, but I have seen them growing in sopping wet conditions as well, around the edges of bogs. The soil is sandier and faster-drying though.

I have 5 capsules of P. lutea "Volusia County, Fl." ripening now. My submerged specimens are in full flower. They've been submerged and kept soaking wet for many months now...

I do believe that soaking wet conditions hamper the growth of many fungi/bacteria forms that otherwise lead to their demise, when kept drier. For example, Joseph Clemens grows all of his Mexican Pinguicula soaking wet year-round, even when resting!

Happy Growing,

Brian.

[daniel]

Hi all,

Jeff, the good news is that i was albe to collect tonnes of seed and they are still in flower, also some mutant flowers. ;D

Xave, don´t give it up, at the beginning i was also not able to pollinate them with success,.... training, training, training and now it works.

Brian, i will try it also with a much higher water level.
You are absolutely right, since i´m growing my P. planifolia slightely submerged it´s really looking much more healthy than before.
Time to try it also with P. caerulea.

But i´m wondering a little bit that it also works with mexican species. Some years ago i´ve lost a few of my mexican species because i have watered them year round. But perhaps something else was the reason for their death.
Some of them for sure will not have any problems, like for example P. emarginata and P. moctezumae or most of the hybrids which i´m watering by the tray method all the year.

Best regards,

Dani

[Brian Barnes]

Hi Dani,

I'm please that you're having great success with keeping them wetter.

Have you ever read any of Joseph Clemens methods for Mexican Pings? He keeps most of them waterlogged year-round and they get huge! He does keep a few drier though, such as P. gypsicola, to my knowledge.
I'll try to get some pics of my submerged P. lutea in flower later today.

Happy Growing,

Brian.

[daniel]

Hi Brian,

Have you ever read any of Joseph Clemens methods for Mexican Pings? He keeps most of them waterlogged year-round and they get huge! He does keep a few drier though, such as P. gypsicola, to my knowledge.

no, i don´t have. But i will search for them.

I´ve tried it too, but i was not very successful (some plants died), but perhaps i´ve made another mistake, for example with too high temperatures.

I´m looking forward to see a picture of your submerged P. lutea.

Best regards,

Dani

[jeff]

Bonjour

for my emargina I keep 4 species always in a terra all the year without watering just a great air hygrometry 80-90% on a bed of clay ball

for all my filiform specie ( gypsicola-medusinae-heterophylla ) in winter dry substrat but in summer outdoor with all the 15 days watering .

for the others mexican in winter ( 10-12°c) just a lightly watering ( to have no dessication ) in summer outdoor with the other in the same conditions.

J .CLEMENS use a peat substrat no? to have allways a good condition with this substrat it is necessary that it is wet if not you have a concrete substrate ;D

apparently also it does not make them make a rest , he is not inspired by their “in situ” conditions .

I am also very interested by your submerged lutea

jeff