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Post by daniel on Nov 25, 2008 20:00:22 GMT -5
Hello, in the moment my D. schwackei ´Diamantina, Minas Gerais, Brazil´ (yes, it´s not longer D. montana var. schwackei) is in flower, it´s nearly the first time that it´s in flower in any collection. The only one is Thomas Carow who collected living plants in the 80´s, so it´s still very rare. Here in europe it´s perhaps growing in about 7 collections till now. It´s growing under artificial light. Of course i took several pictures from the plant itself, the emerging flower stalk and the flowers from several sights. The flower stalk and the sepals are really very hairy, similar to D. camporupestris D. chrysolepis, D. kaieteurensis, D. tomentosa..... I really like these hairy flower stalks. Perhaps the flower colour is a little bit darker, but only a little bit. Here are the pictures, i hope you´ll like them. first sign, the hairy thing in the middle of the plant a few days later about a week later this way it looks in the moment and here the fully opened flower the flower is beginning to close the almost fully closed flower I hope you like them. Best regards, Dani
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Post by Brian Barnes on Nov 26, 2008 5:08:30 GMT -5
Hi Dani, Wow....excellent plant and beautiful flower! I remember reading about this species years ago (when it was D. montana ) It almost looks like a cross between D. stelliflora and D. villosa! ;D I hope it is self-fertile, because I'd love to try some seed of this one... Thanks for sharing it with us! Happy Growing, Brian.
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Post by andreas on Nov 26, 2008 16:29:40 GMT -5
It almost looks like a cross between D. stelliflora and D. villosa! ;D ;D Hahahahahahaha....Brian, that´s exactly what I thought when I looked at the first picture! I too like those very hairy flower stalks and I have to admit my favourite picture is the last one with the closed flower and the hairy buds and sepals. Dani, I think the plant could have a little redder colour, don´t ya think so, too! (I hope you won´t BEAT me for my spitefulness!) Yours sincerely, Andreas
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Post by daniel on Nov 26, 2008 19:10:31 GMT -5
Thanks Brian and Andreas, It´s really a very strange species and in my opinion it´s absolutely correct to split it from the D. montana. I must agree that it looks a little bit like a hyrid between D. stelliflora and something else , but it´s not so small, it´s about 3-3,5 cm in diameter and has a 1 cm "stem". The flowers are 2 cm in diameter. Brian, i hope it too that it´s self-fertile. Normally it should work with the pollination, but it´s better to help a little bit, otherwise it´s possible to obtain only a small amount of seed. But with my help it should be much more. And of course we want to have a big amount on seed. ;D Perhaps i´ll try a crossing with D. ascendens on the last flower, if they are open at the same day, but till now it looks good. Andreas, it´s not the light, they are growing next to deep violett coloured D. tomentosa var. glabrata and almost completely red coloured D. villosa. They are not getting very coloured in nature too (Of course you earn to be beaten ;D). Seedlings and small plants have much more colourful leafes. BTW, Andreas F.´s plants and also these from Matthias (perhaps the only growers of this nice species in Germany) have not flowered till now. ;D Here you can find also habitat pictures. www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn/Species/v37n2p36_43.htmlBest regards, Dani
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Post by maxposwillo on Nov 26, 2008 19:24:24 GMT -5
Hi Dani,
Great looking specimen, I really like its fuzziness! I cant wait to get ahold of one of these!
Good Growing, Max
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Post by daniel on Nov 26, 2008 19:32:53 GMT -5
Thanks Max, for me they are relatively easy growers, but Matthias (from him i got the plant 14 months ago) told me that they are very tricky, but i can´t confirm his opinion. About 3 months ago i send some medium plants to 2 growers from France, these two guys are having a lot of problems with them, but i don´t know why. Their conditions seem to be similar to mine. I really hope that i will collect some seed. From some of the other hairy species it should not be a problem. Best regards, Dani
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Post by andreas on Nov 28, 2008 8:43:26 GMT -5
Andreas, it´s not the light, they are growing next to deep violett coloured D. tomentosa var. glabrata and almost completely red coloured D. villosa. They are not getting very coloured in nature too (Of course you earn to be beaten ;D). Hi Dani, I see, I deserve to be beaten because of my lack of knowledge....hehehe! ;D I have to admit I haven´t cared much of the so called "Montana-Complex" so far. Perhaps it´s a fault? Fernando once posted a report at CPUK about his trip to a location where another species of this Drosera section grows. But I´ve forgotten the name of that species. It was coloured deeply red and also very hairy on the backside of the leaf and on the petioles (?). But I don´t know anymore if its flower scape was hairy. It´s a beautiful plant and my favourite among this Drosera section. If I remember correctly the lamina is comparatively wide on this species. Perhaps you know of what I´m talking? It wouldn´t surprise me if you´d grow that species, too. If you have photos of that - her damit!!! ;D Seeya, Andreas Oh by the way: I could be possible I confuse the plant with the "D. tomentosa-complex"!
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Post by daniel on Nov 28, 2008 20:32:53 GMT -5
Hi all, 4 days ago i noticed a very small leaf directely next to the inflorescence, today it´s a little bit bigger. Sorry for the quality of the picture, but the leaf is really very small, it´s diretely in the middle of the picture, so if i´m lucky, i´ll have in the near future a plant with 2 crowns at the top. And if i´m not lucky it´s only a mutation. And here the sepals are looking right down, the inflorescence is hairy but the pedicels seem to be glandular with only a few shorter hairs, different in comparison to D. camporupestris and D. chrysolepis where the pedicels are also shorter. Bye the way, i also tried crossings between D. schwackei and D. ascendens and D. tomentosa, i hope it has worked. Andreas, a very big mistake that you have not been interested in the "montana-complex". ;D I really like these plants. About the plants you can´t remember exactely, i think you perhaps mean D. tentaculata or D. sp. "Shibata", both are very hairy and are relatively deep red coloured, really fascinating species. D. tentaculata is closely related to D. tomentosa, it has also a hairy inflorescence like D. tomentosa and a lot of others too. From Fernando i have heard that there are perhaps excisting hybrids between them. Normally D. tomentosa has not those tentacles with bilateral simetry in the leaf appex, but D. tentaculata has them, they are relatively wide at the base. And here is the reason why there are excisting perhaps also hybrids. Here is my D. tomentosa ´Morro do Jambeiro, Minas Merais, Brazil´ that should not have these longer tentacles. About D. sp. "Shibata" i´m not really sure if the inflorescence is also hairy, but i think not. And this time you are wrong, i´m not cultivating thes 2 species till now. ;D Not yet, but i´m working on it. But i´m growing some other babies, that are nice too, but still very rare. Best regards, Dani
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Post by andreas on Nov 29, 2008 17:04:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Dani, you´re so BRILLIANT!!!! After browsing through Bob´s photofinder I´ve found it´s Drosera sp. "Shibata" which I mean! And it wasn´t Fernando Rivadavia whose photos I´ve seen but those of Paulo Minatel! Yes, that spec. "Shibata" is really nice! And, yes, I know I have to patiently wait `til you´ll have spares. Anyway, I like the D. tomentosa with the very hairy flower stalk very much, too. And if you should have spares, my dear, I wouldn´t mind taking some of them! Hehe! Kindest regards, Andreas
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Post by daniel on Nov 30, 2008 19:44:58 GMT -5
Thanks Andreas. Drosera sp. "Shibata" is really a very nice species, and yes, Paolo was the one who showed the nice pictures. With this species we have to wait a little bit. But with hairy D. tomentosa it should not be a problem. In the moment most of them are also in flower, look here: Best regards, Dani
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Post by Brian Barnes on Dec 5, 2008 10:00:28 GMT -5
Hey Dani, The D. tomentosa are indeed very pretty... If you ever have extra seed, I'm sure we could manage a trade! ;D I should have some fresh seed from a few of my different D. indica forms soon.... Happy Growing, Brian.
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Post by daniel on Dec 5, 2008 19:32:36 GMT -5
Hi Brian, no problem with extra seed , in the moment i have plants from 2 forms in flower (about 10 plants), they are producing really a lot. D. indica sounds good to me, what forms are you growing? I tried to grow D. indica more than 12 years ago, but of course i lost my only plant. BTW, with 2 of these plants i´m trying to make some crossings, i´m very excited if it will work. D. tomentosa var. glabrata is nearly looking identical, but it´s inflorescences are not hairy, they are glandular, but also pretty. They have also more variation in the colour of the rosette, i´m growing a nearly green form (only the tentacles are red) and a deep violett form (really a beauty ) These days i´ll take some shots from the flowers and the rosettes of D. tomentosa and D. tomentosa var. glabrata. Best regards, Dani
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Post by Brian Barnes on Dec 7, 2008 8:49:43 GMT -5
Hi Dani, I'm growing " lime-green honey scented plant to 20 cm, Howard Springs, WA" and "white flower, plant to 30cm, Adcock Creek, WA" The honey-scented one has an awesome smell!
Happy Growing, Brian
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Post by daniel on Dec 7, 2008 19:52:28 GMT -5
Hi Brian, honey-scented. Sounds really good. Best regards, Dani
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Post by daniel on Jan 29, 2009 19:21:17 GMT -5
Bad news guys. My D. schwackei has not produced any seed nethertheless i´ve pollinated it, i´m really wondering why it´s so. I have had this problem also with D. camporupestris several years ago, the plants have been iv-plants and the first season they have not produced any seed nethertheless i´ve pollinated them. The next season they have produced a very big amount. The D. schwackei was from Kamil and for sure he has propagated this species by the same way. Perhaps this is the problem, or it cannot be selfed, but this would surprice me a lot. I´m very happy that i used the third and last flower for a crosssing, this seed capsule was full of seed and i hope it will germinate after i´ve sown them a few days ago. Best regards, Dani
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