P. pumila flower show

[daniel]

Hi all,

last year my P. pumila flowered and the variaty concerning the flowers is really enormous.
I received it as P. pumila "white flower" ´Seminole Co., Florida, USA´ but in fact only one plant had a pure white flower.

At the beginning i was able to take some pots out of the little terrarium for taking pictures, later it didn´t work anymore without damaging anything.











my favourite


























I hope you like them.

Best regards,

Dani

[jeff]

OH very very nice

jeff

[daniel]

Many thanks Jeff.

And of course there exist also a lot of mutant flowers, here some examples.








Best regards,

Dani

[Brian Barnes]

Hey Dani,

Interesting variation in the colony! Good job! Are those from me? I think so....d**n i'm getting old. ;D

Brian

[daniel]

Thanks Brian.
Yes, the variation is enormous.
I cross pollinated them (a few i selfed as well) and now the next generation grows up.

Have you ever seen the yellow flowering form (P. pumila var. bushwelli)?

And yes, the seed was yours, many thanks again.


Best regards,

Dani

[Brian Barnes]

Hey Dani,

Yes, I've seen the yellow flowered form of P. pumila several times 'in situ'. I've tried growing them once and they did poorly for me. I think the trick is to have calciferous soil, which is what they grow in down in South Fl. Interesting. The seed I sent truly was from a white flowered variety. I guess the flower traits aren't too stable....except for in var. buswelli.

Brian

[daniel]

Hi Brian,

good to hear that this yellow flowering form still exists in nature. Does it occur in little colonies?
Of course i believe you that the seed was from a white flowered variety, anyway one of them was completly white.
Really interesting that the flower traits aren´t stable for P. pumila, why do you think they should be stable for P. pumila var. buswelli.

You mean that all P. pumila grow in calciferous soil?
Hmmm, i use a dead sphagnum/sand mix without any problems.

Best regards,
Dani

[Brian Barnes]

Hey Dani,

I've only seen var. buswelli (yellow flower) growing in calciferous soils in Big Cypress Preserve in South Fl. (which is the only place they grow). The area has a high dissolved coral content in the soil, which is also called "Oolite". I've often wondered if this attributes to their consistant yellow color.

All other typical P. pumila are usually in a sand/deitrus mix 'in situ'... The typical form of P. pumila must have an unstable gene or something to cause such shape and color diversity amongst same-colonies. One doesn't see that much flower diversity amongst the other US Pinguicula species.

Brian

[daniel]

Hi Brian,

but in this Big Cypress Preserve there also occur plants with another flower colour than yellow, or not?
The minerals inside this calciferous soil could be responsible for a different/stable colour.
In the case of Hydrangea macrophylla and other Hydrangea species it is possible to achive different flower colours (which are stable) depending on the pH and/or different minerals in the substrate.

So indeed the flower colour and/or it´s stability could depend on the kind of soil.
Perhaps it´s worthy to plant them into calciferous soil and look what will happen.

BTW, have you taken pictures of them and their habitat?

Best regards,
Dani

[jeff]

Bonjour

DANIEL no possibility for me to have P.pumila seeds ? like P.balcanica with red leaves ?

these pumila mutation are ephemeral ? probably the flower gene A and B actually quite common in this genus.

see here the buswelli specie 'in situ'



remark the other , white, on the picture

for me it is not a soil reaction but rather a antocyan absence or a chlorophylle problem.

not others picture , it's a pity.

on caerulea or planifolia you have a lot of colour to white to blue violet


jeff

[Brian Barnes]

Hi Dani and Jeff,

Actually...yes, there are areas that are more white sand/peat in nature within the Preserve area, where one can find the typical pinkish and purple color variations. BUT...it seems that the yellow flower forms frequent highly calciferous areas, in my opinion. And yes, there are pale yellow/white forms that accompany the yellow forms as well. Unfortunately, I lost the few pics I had of this fantastic variety when my computer crashed a few years back...so thanks Jeff for posting yours! It does seem that P. pumila shows more variation in petal/stigma morphology and shape than the other Southeast US species, in my opinion.

Happy Growing!

Brian

[daniel]

Hi Brian and jeff,

jeff, thanks for the picture.
And no worry, i will send you a mail concerning your wishes.

@brian, thanks for the further explanation.
What a pity you have lost the pictures, so you will have to revisit this location and take some nice pictures and...... ;D

I have also found some pictures on the photofinder but they only show single plants, here is the link:
www.flickr.com/photos/94556645@N00/sets/72157623152717873/

It seems so as if the plants are more reddish than the "normal" P. pumila and they do have a nicely red coloured venation or is it only mere chance.

Best regards,

Dani

[jeff]

Bonjour

an other interessant detail on our twelfth picture , a tube totally violet blue .
can you isolate this specimen and make perenity and reprotiuctibility test?


nice picture to buswelli DANIEL .many thanks

for me the veination are 'normal' but the stem flower colour no , very red or orange , not like on the ' type'.

for me is not a soil question , on these picture we see , in a same area white,pink , blue -violet colour , rather a antocyan lack , why ?

without antocyan for me the plant take the tube colour here yellow .

it's a pity no possibility without seeds to reproduct the phenomen , and try 2 test : perenity and reproductibility.

here in france for lusitanica we have also a variation , but here for me just a sunlight question , with full sun : leaves and "tube" with red veination , with a herb shade green leaves and yellow tub for instant it is my explanation , pending a test 'ex situ' which will be more convincing..

jeff

[marcel]

If any of you guys have seeds or plants of the US species to sell, let me know will you? Even the "standard varieties". I have gotten my feet wet with primuliflora and planifolia and would like to expand but plants and seeds are hard to get and I would like to get them from a reliable grower

[daniel]

No worry Marcel.

If you grow P. primuliflora and P. planifolia successful you will not have any problems with the others.
For sure i will be able to offer some plants in the near future but also seed of a few of them. Perhaps we can swap something.

Best regards,
Daniel