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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 27, 2010 21:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by Brian Barnes on Jan 28, 2010 8:20:42 GMT -5
Justin, I wouldn't go with any heavy watering on those yet! We still have plenty of cold weather ahead here in Fl. Sometimes the warm spells may make Sarracenia throw up a flower spike or some stunted pitchers, but they will go back to sleep. So will your VFTs! My advice is to keep them ALL only damp until you see a true "rush" of growth come March and April....otherwise you may have some serious fungal issues. Winters in Florida are tricky at this time of year for any CP that requires a dormancy. Think "damp" Brian.
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Post by stevestewart on Jan 28, 2010 14:16:09 GMT -5
warm spells may make Sarracenia throw up a flower spike or some stunted pitchers, but they will go back to sleep. So will your VFTs! Eww! Flower vomit! Even worse- stunted pitcher vomit! I'm sorry Brian and Justin I couldn't help myself. ;D It is a slow time of year for carnivorous plants here in the cold northern hemisphere. Steve
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Post by sunbelle on Jan 29, 2010 10:49:19 GMT -5
We are way down here in the subtropical south and the Sarracenia are in a deep sleep. Well, except for a couple of flavas that "Threw up" beautiful pitchers just before the Arctic Express hit, and they then promptly went back to sleep. Dormancy indigestion???
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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 29, 2010 18:12:43 GMT -5
Well Sunbelle that's a question for either someone else or Brian! I'm not sure but down in West Palm it's been very warm for almost a month so my plants are waking up ;D
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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 29, 2010 18:14:59 GMT -5
My advice is to keep them ALL only damp until you see a true "rush" of growth come March and April....otherwise you may have some serious fungal issues. Well Brian my CP have taking a rush of growing, all my plants were down in the ground sleep and about a week ago they started shooting traps and pitchers also some flowers! I'm not going extremely heavy on the water but they are in a little bit of standing water!
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Post by marcel on Jan 30, 2010 4:22:17 GMT -5
Be VERY careful with the watering! Regardless of the place on the globe you are if you have a winter season with cold weather you will loose more Sarracenia's due to fungi that attack if the plant is submitted tot cold-warmer-cold cycles than to extreme low temperatures. Having too much water at your plants in a cold period and/or having not enough air circulation when things are slightly warming up again is a sure way to kill of a large number of plants. To my knowledge no sarracenia's have ever died or suffered a mayor lap in development during the growing season by keeping them just damp early in the year, but if I get an euro (or slightly less interesting a dollar ;D) for every plant that dies each year in collections all over the world because it was to wet in the conditions I mentioned I will start planning that helicopter trip to the tepuis I've been dreaming about
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Post by Brian Barnes on Jan 30, 2010 7:29:26 GMT -5
Justin,
Everyone in this thread has given you good sound advice as far as how to get your plants through dormancy. All advice has come from long-time growers that have been growing CP probably longer than you've been alive!
Go ahead....don't listen. BUT, make sure you post pictures of your rotting, dying plants here in a month or two as well.
Brian.
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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 30, 2010 16:55:53 GMT -5
Ok... Well Brian your last paragraph was pushing to make your point I guess If I'm just going to keep my plants "Damp" how would I do this? I'm not home for 8-12 hours every day, and I don't have anyone to water them for me. How I' am suppose to keep them "Damp" there getting 8-10 hours of sunlight all day...
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Post by buckcity on Jan 30, 2010 21:55:30 GMT -5
Hey Justin, The advice to encourage dormancy in your plants. Early growth means that they didn't rest enough. Trust Brian, Sunbelle, et al.. Since you don't get the cold temperatures that I do in Columbia County, Florida by decreasing moisture you will encourage further, required sleep. If you're concerned about them overheating in the sun you might consider putting them in the shade or even on the north side of a building or tree. Check out Sunbelle's advice page-it is taylor-made for your conditions in South Florida ( www.sunbelleexotics.com/Sunbelle/Culture_Sarrs_Grow.htm ) Meantime enjoy your actively growing droseras. After seeing your pictures I ordered almost the same one's from cobraplant for me.
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Post by buckcity on Jan 30, 2010 22:45:27 GMT -5
Thought I would illustrate what South Floridians/warm climate growers have to overcome. Any actively growing sarracenia or Venus Flytrap would in nature be zapped by the inevitable cold snap plunging them back to sleep. Since you guys don't get prolonged lengths of cold the tried-and- true method is to decrease water (they can't grow without water-and as Marcel counciled: water in winter can promote rot and fungil problems. Warm water is especially bad in my experience.
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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 30, 2010 23:57:31 GMT -5
Buckcity your weather is truly beautiful! My issue is how I' am suppose to keep my plants "damp"?
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Post by stevestewart on Jan 31, 2010 9:34:29 GMT -5
Justin,
You are correct that it is difficult to keep a plant damp rather than wet or dry.
Many more commonly grown potted plants can tolerate either wet or dry soil and environmental conditions year around than Sarracenia. It is for that reason they (Sarracenia) are not more commonly seen.
Dormancy in plants is much easier to deal with if the plants are tolerant of being planted in the ground. Many people in this area grow their carnivorous plants in elaborate artificial bogs.
I would recommend that you do your best to keep your plants just damp. If they become dry for a couple of hours, you will do no harm to them, when dormant. It is important not to forget a plant for a couple of days when it is becoming dry!
One of the greatest challenges for carnivorous plant growers is thinking about dormant plants when they are dormant. Some Drosera species are dormant for the majority of the year, and growers must think about the conditions they are in almost as much as their actively growing plants.
Take care, Steven Stewart
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Post by justaflyinacp on Jan 31, 2010 18:33:38 GMT -5
Thanks Steve instead of the water in the plants tray being half way up the pot could it be a inch or two filled? Everyday I'm gone for 8 hours and the days I'm not I could leave them just damp would that be alright? Also could you point me in a good website of how to build "Cp Bogs"?
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Post by buckcity on Jan 31, 2010 21:31:19 GMT -5
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